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@xgranade@wandering.shop It will never stop frustrating me how many people are all "yes we should solve this problem" right up until it implies any kind of consequences for their friends and suddenly we need to be "reasonable" and "careful" and "not make hasty decisions" etc.
@xgranade@wandering.shop Also somehow in these conversations the problem always lies in some unspecified third party or phenomenon that should be vaguely "addressed", it's somehow never attributable to those who are in power or their friends