"If you want things off Discord then you need to do the work yourself" sounds great on paper, but it has the exact same problem as every other "be the change you want to see" solution:

It doesn't acknowledge the very real incentives and systemic issues that stop someone from *actually doing that*, and it turns "moving off hostile platforms" from a collaborative many-hands-make-light-work project into an individualist Sisyphean boulder being rolled up a hill.

It's not the reasonable position that it superficially seems to be. If you want people to do the work themselves - which is *in and of itself* a reasonable ask - then you also need to give them space and support to actually do so, and account for things like disability too.

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(This was inspired by someone else's toot, but is not a specific response to that; I've seen this particular "solution" brought up so many times over the years, and not just for Discord either)

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