fedi meta re: celebrities
Much as I do enjoy watching youtube mans hilariously miss the point over and over again, I've gotta point out that the sign saying "Nothing about this place or community or software or network is intended nor suitable for use by celebrities," the sign that we delight in swinging at these peoples' shins, that sign is NOT VISIBLE FROM OUTSIDE THE COMPOUND.
Look, remember when we Wicker Man'd the Star Trek lad as a warning to other celebrities to Stay Away This Is Not For You? We scattered his bones, again, INSIDE THE COMPOUND. Not much of a bloody warning, is it.
I'll agree as much as the next guy that the celebrities have to be dealt with, but the way we're doing it is - I hate to use such a strong word but I believe it's warranted and appropriate here - *unsporting*
re: fedi meta re: celebrities
@ifixcoinops I only partly agree (this has been explicitly pointed out to the person in question and gone mostly ignored), but even taking this as completely true: what can we actually do to change that?
Because there have been plenty of efforts to try and stop eg. journalists from making misleading promises about fedi, but as long as journalists insist on only listening to Gargron (a very common problem with reporting on decentrally-organized things), and Gargron doesn't intend to address this problem, I don't know that we *can* do anything about this
re: fedi meta re: celebrities
@ifixcoinops
The warnings are getting posted on bkuesky.
re: fedi meta re: celebrities
@joepie91 and not just Gargron. It seems to me there are a couple of things going on here. Some of it's mis-set expectations as to how well the software works for people with various use models (on badly-mederated instances, using the official apps and web UI, large followings, etc).
Culturallly, though, there's a split between folks who *want* fedi to be celebrity-friendly (leading to reproducing the influencer hiearchies) and those who don't
re: fedi meta re: celebrities
@joepie91 But, there are many fediverses. Eugenworld (.social and other big general-purpose instances) is likely to move in a celebrity-friendly direction ... "Meta's fediverse" will be celebrity-friendly from the beginning, if it happens. Anarchist/leftist fedi, not so much.
re: fedi meta re: celebrities
@joepie91 aye, I quite vividly remember, very quickly after joining masto, finding out that most of the folk here were more fond of the things that gargron did by accident than what he actually wanted to do
Maybe if youtube bloke does his own Warning Video then that'll help other celebs have more realistic expectations about fedi and how it's different to other online places