Well. I was hoping that Thunderbird would get a redesign one day, and it did, but... I don't think this new design is very good :|
@joepie91 they reorganized and made better use of iconography and design but they didn't remove very much information from the default views so it's still, like, a giant combobox from 1995 that only supports plain text and a few icons, at its core. There's a lot of design and content that could still be removed to make it actually look clean (nobody expects that the current item being viewed is highlighted in blue or that the status bar tells you when messages are being downloaded, for example)
@wilbr Huh? I certainly *do* expect it to indicate what thing I am currently viewing. That's a fairly crucial part of UX.
@wilbr (Also: I don't know where this assumption comes from that things must be redesigned to remove information. That isn't what I'm looking for at all.)
@joepie91 just in terms of less clutter, having recently reinstalled Thunderbird myself. Sure you want to know what you're looking at but modern design relies less on extraneous lines and text when a thoughtful icon or bold could do. Packing a lot of text and panes and grids and stuff into a small space feels busy.
@joepie91 I think it's a process, and also that it's really hard for the designers / devs to do this work because how awful the response to the rework have been...
Like, I find it hard to explain, but they've somehow managed to make the UI feel more cluttered despite containing about the same amount of stuff that was there before