@nova@hachyderm.io I'm certain that Hachyderm can receive the benefit of the doubt (eg. I have specifically asked my instance's admin to not defederate *yet*, to see how things play out first), but the same does not apply for corporations.

Corporations have been getting the benefit of the doubt with this sort of thing for decades, uninterruptedly, without exception, and every single time it has played out the same way.

It is well-understood to me why allowing corporations into a community space is a bad idea on a very fundamental and unsolvable level (I have actually expanded on this in various reply chains, like https://social.pixie.town/@joepie91/109360136040004274), with mountains of recurring evidence to show for it. I expect the same to be true for many others in the fediverse.

Corporations, as a group, have simply run out of second chances for us.

I am also not some magical "ruler of the fediverse" with any sort of decisionmaking power - this was genuinely just meant as a heads-up to followers on Hachyderm, based on what I expect the response from the wider fediverse to be as this plays out.

And ultimately, the conclusion remains the same as in my original post: *if* Hachyderm continues to try and get brands onto the fediverse, then I expect it to be pretty widely defederated (and would certainly expect my admin to do so).

That doesn't mean that Hachyderm isn't *allowed* to do this, of course - it is ultimately an open protocol. But defederation is the likely response, and that is something that will have to be accepted in that case.

(I should note that *all* the replies from Hachyderm users so far have been Reply Guys trying to start a debate that I didn't invite them for, which isn't promising...)