why cohost is problematic (long) :boosts_ok_gay: 

Okay, so let's talk about this cohost thing for a bit.

It sounds great on the surface - a small-scale, worker-owned, sustainable social media platform, run by some trusted people! Great, right?

Not so much, unfortunately. If you click through a bit, you'll find that it's run by "anti software software club llc", which claims to be a "non-profit software company". Except that's legally false (LLCs are not non-profit), and practically very unlikely to actually work out like you might think. In reality, it's an unaccountable power structure, and one that is bound to end in disaster.

They're not the *first* to do this - both YourAnonNews and npm (the JS package registry) have a very similar origin story. A small hobby project by some activist-minded people, trusted by the community, incorporated into a for-profit legal form to keep the lights on, promising to always keep serving the community. Of course, there's a reason I'm mentioning them - both of these projects turned into large unaccountable power structures that ended up doing far more harm than good, and significantly damaging a movement.

They scaled up, and whether through naivete or otherwise, the founders were unable to continue acting in the best interest of the community and broader society. Both of them became a blight on their respective communities, actively interfering with the efforts of others in that community to right the ship.

But they'd grown "too big to fail", too big and closed-down to replace or disavow. They ended up *controlling* the community rather than serving it.

A company is not a community. It is hierarchical; it has owners, employees, people with a specific role who decide how it gets run. This makes a worker-owned company a decent option when the decisions being made only affect the workers, as there's good representation.

But... that is not what's going on here! There is *no way* in which a worker-owned company can accurately represent the interests of a community of people *who do not actually work there*. Worker-owned companies are not magical fairy dust that guarantee equity and representation. You need actual community governance structures for that.

So... cohost is problematic. It is a power structure which is prone to abuse (deliberately or otherwise), not accountable to anybody, with no proper community governance model nor any real room in its incorporation form to *create* such a governance model, it is a proprietary and closed system that does not interoperate with other systems, and most worryingly of all it is a platform that becomes more valuable as it grows.

In other words: all the ingredients for a perfect storm of power abuses and harm several years down the line. Whether you personally trust the founders doesn't really change that - it's set up for failure from the very start, even assuming the best intentions.

As an activist community, we really need to do better on this - recognize such problematic power structures *before* they grow big enough to cause widespread harm, and encourage people to select governance models that *don't* suffer from these issues.

why cohost is problematic (long) :boosts_ok_gay: 

@joepie91 LLC is a reporting structure (with alternatives including S-Corp, C-Corp, and others depending on state). It’s mostly orthogonal to “non-profit” which is a Tax status (501c3 are the most common, but there are alternatives). In some states you *can* legally have 501c3 LLCs. They are rare (most 501c3s are C-Corps or S-Corps for maximum tax advantage), but possible. I don’t know about Cohost’s company specifically though.

why cohost is problematic (long) :boosts_ok_gay: 

@joepie91 Though it is a useful reminder that 501c3 is a *tax status* and people tend to elevate “not for profit” to have charitable meanings and think they are special “goodly” companies, rather than just tax requirements and shareholder restrictions on top of otherwise normal companies, but they aren’t actually that “goodly special”. There are plenty of examples in history of 501c3s that were scams or just tax dodges or anti-labor

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why cohost is problematic (long) :boosts_ok_gay: 

@max Right. This is actually one reason why I'm skeptical of activist projects that are incorporated in the US in general - "non-profit" generally means a lot more in other countries, including some sort of legal obligation to act in line with the defined mission statement and/or public interest. That's really the bare minimum protection-from-corruption you'd need when incorporating into a hierarchical form.

(When I say "non-profit", that is also what I am referring to, not to the typical US incorporation forms or tax status)

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