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why cohost is problematic (long) :boosts_ok_gay: 

@aeva@mastodon.social But cohost can do the exact same thing? That doesn't solve this. If the problem is "no governance at all", then select an instance that *does* have governance?

The point I am trying to make here is that a locked-down centralized platform is *strictly worse* from an abusive-power-structures perspective - anything that cohost could be getting right in terms of governance, would also just be implementable as a fedi instance *without* the issues of cohost

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why cohost is problematic (long) :boosts_ok_gay: 

@joepie91 @aeva you know, you're not wrong, but a lot of my friends straight-up just won't switch to mastodon just because to them, it has "weird libertarian vibes" for exactly the reasons you're putting forth. they hate that it made Gab possible, and they consider cohost a decent alternative to that, but also with its own downsides.

why cohost is problematic (long) :boosts_ok_gay: 

@CymechDraws @aeva@mastodon.social Oh sure, I don't disagree that there are issues with the fediverse as it stands - both reputational and cultural - and that those need to be addressed.

But "creating another locked-down silo with an abuse-prone power structure" just isn't how you solve that problem, that just exacerbates it.

why cohost is problematic (long) :boosts_ok_gay: 

@joepie91 @aeva sure! i mean hey, i don't have any stake in this. i'll try whatever version of not-tumblr and not-twitter appear to be least toxic in the given moment. imo there are advantages/disadvanges to both structures. we shall see what happens ! ✨

why cohost is problematic (not entirely serious) 

@CymechDraws @joepie91 @aeva mastodon made gab possible, but twitter is making twitter possible!

why cohost is problematic (long) :boosts_ok_gay: 

@CymechDraws @joepie91 @aeva

Not even touching the "weird libertarian vibes" thing. o_0 But...

"...they hate that it made Gab possible..."

Wait. What?

re: why cohost is problematic (long) :boosts_ok_gay: 

@CymechDraws @joepie91 @aeva Gab's private beta launched in August 2016 on its own codebase, at which time Mastodon was still in very early development. Gab opened for public registration in May 2017, at which time Mastodon had just recently gotten a lot of tech media buzz. It wasn't until 2019 that Gab switched to a fork of Mastodon, something that the fediverse was well-prepared for through preemptive domain blocks.

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