stallman
someone asked why we don't just give up on the FSF, ignore rms, and move on, and partly I think people are hesitant because it feels like admitting esr-style "open source" won and that focusing on "the software works better" beats caring about user freedom
but the only reason this feels like giving up is that we don't have an organized post-FSF movement that builds on the lessons we've learned since the 1980s! we badly need a resistance that embraces an anti-capitalist foundation that the FSF was never bold enough to take
stallman
@technomancy
What does ESR stand for ? Extended Support Release?
I think the "permacomputing movement" might be what you're looking for? But its still in its infancy.
Ultimately I don't think FSF matters, FSF is not useful, it doesn't really do anything. But Gnu, as much as I love to hate it, is very useful and matters a lot.
I think if you want such a change to take place, (fsf deposed and their cultural position assumed by a new org) it will require the creation/growth of a new thing that's genuinely useful in the same way gnu was.
I guess I mean the ideology only matters as far as it influences the design of the software / system. I don't think it really matters that much with the license says or what the "foundation" claims to stand for
stallman
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