wait a minute, are a bunch of instances now using a tool to find out who has them suspended?

I've had multiple requests in the last few days asking why social.pixie.town, a tiny instance, has their specific instance suspended, what the fuck

kiwifarms, suspend list scraping 

It's important context that this tool was made by kiwifarms, and expliclity links to their git in the footer.

All of these requests have been along the lines of "look we have a perfect set of rules there's no possibility at all you blocked us for good reason".

1. we can block for whatever reason we want, it's a discussion to have within our own community, not with you.
2. you're using a kiwifarms tool to get this info. fuck off

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it's confirmed that qoto.org used a fascist's tool to mass send emails to instances who suspend them for good reason. qoto.org/@freemo/1093608811876

qoto.org if you haven't already

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post has since been deleted, so here are some screenshots. this is in context of archive.ph/rxwDp#80%

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@f0x Seems they may have axed the post already? 404 in my browser.

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@church ah yikes, should've archived it.. good thing the page was still open on my desktop so will add some screenshots to the thread

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@f0x when reading that thread i considered screenshotting it, but realised you’d probably already done so. i was right! :p

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@kim well i almost didn't! once again reminded I should throw shit through an archiver before tooting an expose :")

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@f0x you could set up a bot that follows your RSS feed an archives them 🤔

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@kim actually i keep forgetting to bring back the thing that blocks user rss feeds :") way too easy to scrape

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@f0x @kim it's so nice of them to have all these discussions in public 🌍

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@f0x here is likely how the knowledge of this tool might have spread cjr.org/analysis/journalists-w

(in the link attached to the 'about forty-five “instances” are blocking' text)

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@host once again confirming the danger such journalists pose, repeating shit without knowing or caring about context

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@f0x the "context" part hurts the most, as I would understand this to be the basis of what journalism entails.

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@host @f0x jesus fucking christ. ty for linking that. socrates was looking out for their instance, idk why mathew couldntve just anonymized their post. fuck.

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@f0x Instances should really block ryona.agency while they're at it. Doing that should render the tool useless.

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@tonytins while it's absolutely a good instance to block, doing so doesn't remove you from the tool, as it uses the instance web pages. You can disable showing those to unauthenticated local users but that for an instance to decide

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@f0x Wow. That's pretty bad.

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@f0x @tonytins 🤔 shouldn't this be prevented by CORS restrictions?

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@f0x
Of course they're using a domain with "ryona" in the name

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@f0x for fucks sake. thanks for informing us about this

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@f0x I've received that email from qoto.org. I've also received quite a bit of abuse from various instances because they discovered I'm blocking them. This dynamic is troubling.

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@f0x hmm this is bad i see many instances i know in the screenshots including mine

everyone if you get one of these emails please share it so everyone can block them

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@f0x good thing I never filled in the contact email in my instance .-.

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@imtheq @f0x @helen
Well that doesn't sound good.

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@f0x @TerryHancock @helen keeping my eyes open for any shenanigans.

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@f0x That place has always been pretty sus tbh

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@XanIndigo @f0x The obvious irony is that their position is 'widespread co-operative fediblocking risks creating a homogenous speech environment that only suits a definition of free speech we disagree with, to truly protect free speech we must institute a homogenous speech environment that only suits a definition of free speech we *agree with*.

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@XanIndigo @f0x Admittedly "it's not free speech if people are able to use it in ways i deem unacceptable" seems to be the most common working definition of free speech

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@wouldinotcallmyselfahumanbeing @XanIndigo @f0x

Qoto has also confirmed to me that they do not ban users of other instances for any reason.

Their rules on things like racism only applies to local Qoto users.

The admin wasn't even confident that he would ban child porn unless his community voted to do so.

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@f0x perhaps one more for your attention @david

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@AtomicMaya @f0x that's one of the reasons that we blocked qoto a year or two ago. The instance admin was doing a "DeBaTe Me BrO" type conversation at me for far too long about why I said things that I did and did things that I did for the instance

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@david yay, y'all are proactive ^^

(and I'm apparently late to the party with alerting)

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@AtomicMaya No worries! Definitely default to letting us know, just in case we haven't seen something

@f0x i tried to see what's under this link and it triggered my antivirus, lmao
That site is definitely not safe.

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@f0x
As far as I know, the reason was far-right trolling

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