it allows you to break your install without confirmation in ways that it's impossible to undo because it breaks itself
passing --root from a live verson does not in fact fix this because it still tries to chroot and run the broken version
also it will try to run hook scripts even with the turbo force remove option which also frickin fail on a broken root and then it complains there were too many errors

it's a frickin mess. who made this shit
how come pacman from the disto which is notorious for sucking actually sucks way less
it won't break things without confirmation
you can double force remove packages and they actually get removed
you can run it from a live disk to fix a broken install and it doesn't try to run shit in a chroot and then complain that it's broken, making it impossible to fix

also in package managers that can and do self destruct: apk from alpine
literally the worst

the answer is basically

- lots of learning but it's the best solution lol: nix

- pretty easy to transition from debuntu and it's good enough imo: arch

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@haskal hmm i wonder which 2 distros i use :D (hint: one day it'll just be nix)

@haskal it sucks that nixos is currently so complicated, but I think eventually with the right amount of work Nix could be an incredible base for a way more friendly operating system, because the determinism and composability make it ideal to interface with gui and automatic stuff

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