so if either the liveusb or the new install (nixos, which is still new to me, and im doing a very complex setup with zfs and full disk encryption) don't connect to the internet with ssh open there's nothing i can see nor debug

@f0x You could probaly just plug in a usb-> serial thingy and have that also as a console for at least after it has booted.

@erikk hmmm, right, interesting