not really sure why people want to use XMPP as the chat component in the pleroma platform. yuck.
@kaniini people have an unhealthy fetish for federation-at-all-costs, and think that XMPP is the perfect solution for that.
@kline the pleroma platform is intended to be federated solutions though ;)
@kaniini yeah but that doesn't mean xmpp is the right solution, they just see "federated" on the xmpp marketing page and smash like and subscribe
@kline i think it's more about being able to tap into the xmpp ecosystem instead of going it alone
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i think XMPP and Matrix both have design strengths and weaknesses, personally.
it really comes down to which technology is best adapted to fit our requirements.
XMPP is likely seen as preferable because NV unilaterally controls the matrix specs (the matrix.org foundation is, well, frankly, a meaningless distinction)
XMPP also has a slight edge because there's a third-party XMPP server already that fits into the erlang ecosystem (Mongoose) and can integrate with Pleroma authentication.
with Matrix, I mean, frankly, Synapse isn't acceptable for inclusion as a third-party component in the platform, so we would have to either work on Ruma or write a homeserver from scratch. NV, having commercial interests, are probably not likely to cooperate with us.
i think XMPP and Matrix both have design strengths and weaknesses, personally.
it really comes down to which technology is best adapted to fit our requirements.
XMPP is likely seen as preferable because NV unilaterally controls the matrix specs (the matrix.org foundation is, well, frankly, a meaningless distinction)
XMPP also has a slight edge because there's a third-party XMPP server already that fits into the erlang ecosystem (Mongoose) and can integrate with Pleroma authentication.
with Matrix, I mean, frankly, Synapse isn't acceptable for inclusion as a third-party component in the platform, so we would have to either work on Ruma or write a homeserver from scratch. NV, having commercial interests, are probably not likely to cooperate with us.
i do think if an organization like Pleroma made a play in the Matrix community, it would balance out a lot of those concerns.