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"IHRA definition of Antisemitism" from StopAntisemitism is bad. Here is why. Part 1/3 

This is being done in my name. I get emails celebrating non-profits who strong-arm institutions into adopting a new definition of antisemitism, directly to my email inbox. Since, after all, couldn't I only disagree if I am a fake jew, or a bad jew? That I suppose is taken as a given, which is how bad the community witch hunt has gotten here in the Diaspora.

Edit: Here is what I was linked to by the email as the "IHRA definition" from the StopAntisemitism website. This slightly differs from the IHRA site, but isn't what I was linked. So it appears they are tacking onto someone else's definition? stopantisemitism.org/about/ihr

Here are two points from the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) working definition of Antisemitism in the link above. The one orgs like the JNF and the ADL are championing in our name:

"Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor."

and

"Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation."

Now you can imagine how Jews who are against US-colonialism, and all varieties, and are not hypocritical in the slightest beyond the witch-hunt for "bad jews", feel about this. This is a flimsy excuse for Christian politicians and racist liberals to call protestors "fake jews". I on the other hand, think it is anti-semitic to hypocritically apply the dual-loyalty trope just because you are both an ardent nationalist of your home country and one you don't even live in. I don't know about you, but I think the history lesson may have been to drop those loyalties that demand "just following orders" to begin with. Flimsy and disgusting abuse of Jewish identity to inflame Islamophobic anger, with these being the only changes relative to other definitions. Exactly what I'd expect from people who inherently view the lived experiences, language, songs, and voices of the Jewish diaspora as inherently lesser, and who cannot pick out even basic principles from Talmud study. Individuals who go to bat for war and never for peace, ignoring the poor of their own country to privilege those who have done aliyah first. Halacha tells you not to do that, along with many other ways you could not be an asshole, like not starting a McCarthyist witch hunt in a vulnerable minority community.

Stop twisting anti-semitism, leaning further into it's tropes for a witch hunt among the Jewish community, and demanding recognition of new definitions that are blatantly amending in new excuses to be racist.

Maybe this will be one of the new tragedies to mark Tisha B'Av for Jewish people around the world. Or maybe you could quit playing into the hands of conservative schmucks who don't give a shit about our people and our cultures outside their stupid apocalypse.

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IHRA definition of Antisemitism is bad. Here is why. Part 2 

There are definitions which also have clauses that essentially insinuate Jewish people must have loyalty to the state of Israel or else they are self-hating. Good job trumping the dual loyalty trope there, by requiring it.

A good definition would just be a list of anti-semitic tropes instead of turning into a tumblr dni list of your political enemies within the Jewish community partway through. If someone is actually being an anti-semite they are gonna say a lot more than "ceasefire now!" you fucking clowns. So much for a plurality of views within the Jewish community, calling in the riot shield imperials in rank and file against your fellow community members over peaceful internal disagreements! By your definition, the best kind of anti-semitism is the one that ends with specifically the Jewish people you personally disagree with getting locked up in jail. Is that a part of "mowing the lawn" too? Fucking fascist collaborators.

IHRA definition of Antisemitism is bad. Here is why. Part 3 

It may come as a surprise to you as an ignorer of history, but siding with non-Jews in government and other institutions to police and re-litigate the formal definition of what *really* constitutes hatred of Jewish people has a bad track record! The people you are calling in with clubs and shields may have an ulterior motive, and be using you, believe it or not! You're letting yourselves be played and you'll be tossed aside at the next convenient moment.

IHRA definition of Antisemitism is bad. Here is why. Part 1/3 

@thufie those aren't points from the IHRA. They are examples that quote "could, taking into account the overall context, [constitute antisemitism]".
And that's absolutely true. Both of those have been used in the past as clearly and irrevocably antisemitic talking points. They aren't necessarily as you are very right about, but they can and have been.

IHRA definition of Antisemitism is bad. Here is why. Part 1/3 

@thufie the full and entire working definition of antisemitism by the IHRA fits in a toot:

“Antisemitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred toward Jews. Rhetorical and physical manifestations of antisemitism are directed toward Jewish or non-Jewish individuals and/or their property, toward Jewish community institutions and religious facilities.”

re: IHRA definition of Antisemitism is bad. Here is why. Part 1/3 

@dequbed Are we not looking in the same place? stopantisemitism.org/about/ihr

re: IHRA definition of Antisemitism is bad. Here is why. Part 1/3 

@thufie I am referring to the IHRA's own website: holocaustremembrance.com/resou
stopantisemitism is wholly independent of the IHRA, and — in my experience — much more radical in their politics.

re: IHRA definition of Antisemitism is bad. Here is why. Part 1/3 

@dequbed so they are hijacking someone else's definition? But that page has the same text under it. Just confusion in presentation I guess. Still don't like what I outlined. Both pages still have the same text. Both still have the same context.

re: IHRA definition of Antisemitism is bad. Here is why. Part 1/3 

@thufie hijacking is a strong word. The definition is there for the taking and all the examples they listed are actual antisemitic tropes that have been levied against us in history past and recent. But the way stopantisemitism presents them makes it easy to interpret them as you did, which is not how they were meant by the IHRA at least.
Anyway, שבת שלום :)

re: IHRA definition of Antisemitism is bad. Here is why. Part 1/3 

@dequbed gut shabbos

re: IHRA definition of Antisemitism is bad. Here is why. Part 1/3 

@dequbed if you've got time before sundown there's other posts in the thread too

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