@cynthia@mstdn.social happy to share the info, then!

For what it's worth, jitsi is pretty quick and simple to use. No install needed on a pc, they have a small app for smartphones. When I send friends a jitsi link to chat with, they're usually able to join within a minute or so, even if they've never used it before. I'd be happy to take half an hour or so to teach you or a friend, though I don't think it'd take that long at all. :)

Unlike most 'nice' things, you don't need to self-host this or pay for a license or anything, either. If you visit https://meet.jit.si you can set up a call and check it out. It's just... Really nice?