Honestly, there should just be a tax on disposable packaging. Watch how quickly reusable packaging and refill setups become "cost-competitive".

@joepie91 I agree, but you should also work into the law that they can't pass that cost onto the consumer. In Amsterdam, you get charged a plastic fee on a lot of food delivery, because they have to pay a tax legally on that plastic, but most companies just pass that onto the customer.

I really love the idea of little to no packaging on everything though. I also would love a total ban on all disposable plastic, not a tax. The Netherlands has a horrible problem with plastic in grocery stores, and also requires a tax on that too. I mostly always bring my own bags so I don't have to pay for the plastic bags, because they don't even offer paper bags! There's no options for paper bags here at the two major grocery stores. This is so bizarre to me.

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@domo Assuming you're talking about the SUP fee, as I understand it it isn't a tax at all - places using those single-use plastics are merely required to charge customers, but do not themselves owe any kind of fee to anyone.

This seems to be driven by some neoliberal nonsense around 'economic nudging' that completely ignores how and why these plastics are actually used and selected (ie. it isn't actually customers making that choice).

Had it been an actual tax, then chances are that it wouldn't have been charged to customers at all. A lot of takeaway places were publicly lamenting how they didn't *want* to charge this fee to customers, but they legally had to.

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