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Honestly, there should just be a tax on disposable packaging. Watch how quickly reusable packaging and refill setups become "cost-competitive".

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@joepie91 I think it would be so ridiculously easy for most companies to slash 50-80% of their plastic packaging use. Just put a thinner packaging in a cardboard box, geez.. And there are so many other options if that doesn't work well.

But it would definitely require government intervention.

@joepie91 I agree, but you should also work into the law that they can't pass that cost onto the consumer. In Amsterdam, you get charged a plastic fee on a lot of food delivery, because they have to pay a tax legally on that plastic, but most companies just pass that onto the customer.

I really love the idea of little to no packaging on everything though. I also would love a total ban on all disposable plastic, not a tax. The Netherlands has a horrible problem with plastic in grocery stores, and also requires a tax on that too. I mostly always bring my own bags so I don't have to pay for the plastic bags, because they don't even offer paper bags! There's no options for paper bags here at the two major grocery stores. This is so bizarre to me.

@🦇 Domo

you get charged a plastic fee on a lot of food delivery, because they have to pay a tax legally on that plastic



They actually have to explicitly charge you for it, the idea behind that law is that people will see refusing it as a way to save a little money. But yes, many shops don't do that.

We do have a big problem with plastic, yes. The plastic-wrapped vegetables in the supermarket are an outrage.

@hans that's frustrating. If I could refuse plastic and opt for paper, I would, but none of the restaurants that do the plastic charge have another option. An example would be ordering vegan Indian food. It always comes in plastic containers, and there's nothing I can do about it. I can't ask them to use my own containers, and I can't ask for paper containers.

The plastic wrapped cucumbers are infuriating. Also, why don't they provide paper bags for single serving bread? Why is it always plastic? Even the USA does better at this, and they love petroleum, perhaps more than anyone.

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