non-ADHD advice given to ADHD people is always like "here's one neat trick for doing the thing: just do the thing"

@gsuberland "too much mental load? Simply reduce your mental load by writing a to do list"

It's like they don't know that writing a to do list exponentially increases mental load for someone with ADHD

@schratze @gsuberland I mean, todo lists *can* work to some degree.. just not in any way remotely resembling the way neurotypical people suggest using them...

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@schratze @gsuberland I use day-specific todo lists as a way to have a hard cut-off; once I have completed tasks for the day, I am Done(tm) with chores, even if there's nominally more stuff to do. If I don't get all of them done, they simply get rescheduled onto another day. Prevents me from overexerting my spoons trying to do everything I am "supposed" to do in a single day...

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@joepie91 @schratze @gsuberland I'm not really sure what that actually means in practice, could you describe the process a bit more? 😅

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@hazelnot @schratze @gsuberland I currently do this in my... planner? ("agenda" in Dutch), where for every day that I'm not intentionally keeping free of chores, I write down something like 4-5 chores that I still need to do.

Then each day I look at the entry for that day, and therefore the todo list for that day, and do those chores in one go (where possible). Once I've done them, I am done with chores for the day, and the rest of the day is free time (modulo work and such). I tick off each task as I go.

If I *don't* manage to do all of them in one day, or I run out of spoons before finishing all of them, then I just take the ones that haven't been ticked off yet, and find another spot in my planner where there's still space, and re-schedule them for that day. That's not a failure to me, just a change of plans.

Normally it's more like maybe 1 or 2 chores a day, the 4-5 right now is because I have a crapton of things to prepare for my transplantation, and so my days are mostly chores for a while. The important part is that the chore selection for a day is a genuine estimate as to what is possible with your executive function, so *not* just cramming in as much as possible. If the
answer is one thing a day, then the answer is one thing a day.

Sometimes I'm feeling particularly motivated and pre-empt some chores from a later day but that's very rare.

For large chores that span more than one day, I break them up into smaller chores that can be completed in like 1-2 hours each, and then schedule those parts individually (on different days, usually).

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@joepie91 @schratze @gsuberland oh interesting, I should try that

Should probably get or find a planner cause if I try to use computers for this I just know what's gonna happen lol

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@hazelnot @schratze @gsuberland Yep, this is why I use a physical planner too

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