RMS (stallman), potentially uncomfortable discussion
@tastytea@very.tastytea.de I don't think the point of the website is to convince the defenders directly - rather it is to convince other community participants that those who defend Stallman must *knowingly* be doing so and so they are shitty people too.
That's a much easier argument to make when there's a comprehensive, almost overwhelming documentation of all the shitty stuff that RMS has done, because defenders can no longer plead ignorance or gaslight people into saying "nah that's just a rumour".
> we (free software enjoyers) should ask ourselves how to deal with people that still defend RMS instead of trying to convince the unconvincable.
So in short, I think this is exactly the thing that such a website helps with. It allows for cutting short the defenders' arguments as a third party, which makes it much easier to summarily remove them from a community as well.
RMS (stallman), potentially uncomfortable discussion, CSA
@joepie91 @tastytea Okay, seriously. I don't understand how what RMS seems to be saying "there is a difference between children and teens" is a mild take when the context seems to be "and that means adults should be able to sex with them."
At least that is the context I was given, so I apologise if I am missing something here, the website is long and I haven't had a chance to read through it yet.
But if his point is that *just* that there is a difference between children and teens absent the whole sex thing then yes or even "teens should be given education and be able to be intimate with each other" then that *would* be okay.
However, Stallman does not seem to be going far enough with it if that's the crux of his argument and any real discussion of this would need to bring youth liberation into it, which I don't think he does. Not so children or 'teens' can have sex with adults but so they can have access to knowledge and rights which would stop abuse. 1/3
RMS (stallman)
@arisingvoice @tastytea@very.tastytea.de To clarify, my response was mainly to the parts that fall into the "toe nails/cheese" category.
The part that you're referring to is a lot more complex to address, because it's heavily reliant on context and intention (as you mentioned), and some part of the report is editorialization too.
Addressing this with sufficient nuance to not be misunderstood is something that requires more energy and spoons than I currently have available, and is somewhat of a moot point, because it's not really in question that RMS - who the report is ultimately about - is a harmful creep. So it's a topic I'd rather not go into in more detail right now.
RMS (stallman)
@joepie91 @tastytea Okay, thanks for clarifying.
Totally understand and hope you will be well and if you want to and can feel free to respond at any time.
If you can't or don't want to that's completely understandable too. 🙂