@joepie91 @davidculley really does not sound like a person who is on eye-level based on the amount of corpo-speak

@Profpatsch I mean, it's definitely corpo-speak, but for me personally what matters is whether someone is open to making concrete commitments - usually the answer is "no", but I was pleasantly surprised in this case :)

@joepie91 Thing is with these kinds of people you never know whether they are just saying things to placate …

@Profpatsch IME that's unlikely to be the case when there's a concrete commitment. Like, nothing is impossible, but usually the way that this sort of thing works is that someone makes a pseudo-commitment as a PR move, without the intention of ever doing what it implies, and then later tries to retroactively justify it (to others *and* to themselves, ethically) by saying "well what we're doing still technically fits in the description" even though it's not what anybody meant.

That's why I asked for very concrete commitments here, that are difficult to weasel out of; if they unambiguously say yes to that, it's unlikely they are looking to weasel out of it, because then they would've given a much more evasive answer. And with the concrete commitment, if they change their mind, they would have to openly admit to not following their promises in a way that can't really be justified.

TL;DR if someone clearly promises something, you can hold them to it, and that in and of itself discourages changes without a very good reason.

@Profpatsch (Sidenote, all of this is from a background of "for some people this is just how they talk and/or how they are expected to, in their role, and I don't want to assume dishonesty unless I actually see it" - it's not so much relevant if your general preference is to stay away from people who come across like that in general)