meta, racism, question 

I've seen a couple of comments now from various non-white folks saying that they get proportionally *more* racist abuse hurled at them here than on Twitter.

I'd like to better understand why that is - "equally much" makes sense to me, with the culture not being less racist here, but I don't quite understand how it can result in *more* abuse than a functionally unmoderated place like Twitter.

Does anyone have any insights for me about what is causing this to happen? What protection is missing, what misfeature is amplifying the problem, or what else about the environment *or* system here plays a role in this?

(If you're white, please only respond if your understanding is based on what non-white folks have said on the matter; I'm not looking for guesses here from people who aren't themselves on the receiving end, because you're very unlikely to have the right answer.)

meta, racism, question 

@joepie91

So in this post, you have just asked for BIPOC to do labor for you for free.

Im pointing this out because its really endemic of the situation, and is frequently discussed as such by the vanishingly few BIPOC voices on this platform.

There is so much existing material available on this oppression intersection in general, and a general understanding of what racism is and how we perform it will be fundamental to understanding the specific technicalities of how it manifests on mastodon

re: meta, racism, question 

@chriscoreline @joepie91 "i will not do that labor for you" sure did irreversible harm to leftism and antibigotry

"listen to BIPOC/queer/disabled/otherwise marginalized people" but also "asking is telling them to do labor for you". but you know, if you're not asking then you are more prone to repeating bigoted rhetoric, often without realizing it. and i am pretty sure that marginalized people know best about their situation instead of allies, no?

you know. qui rogat non errat.
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re: meta, racism, question 

@alexander @chriscoreline I mean, I agree with the idea that you shouldn't *expect* marginalized folks to explain things to you, because it *does* create an unreasonable amount of pressure on the most vulnerable folks, who constantly have to explain themselves.

But that doesn't mean that you shouldn't be asking anything anymore at all either, because that creates the problem you describe where the proper solutions are unknown to people, hence trying to find ways (like the stand-alone question post) that ask but do not expect.

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re: meta, racism, question 

@joepie91 @chriscoreline i personally see nothing wrong with standalone asks. i'd rather have someone ask me a million times how is [insert trope] actually normalized ableism/sanism rather than repeat that trope because they didn't want to "give me labor"

not everyone is a master at finding resources. not everyone is able to read long manifestos.

if you can't put your query like you're explaining it to a 5 year old, your activism frankly sucks. we should all aim to be accessible if we want antibigotry activism to make any sense.

(AND TO FUCKING PREFACE THIS: this is not to say to entertain sealioning or concern trolling. fuck that shit.)
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