@vidister@chaos.social I don't think that's really the case, to be honest. To be clear, I agree that the stewardship of the project has been very poor, and there are a lot of serious issues with both the protocol design and reference implementations. (There's a reason I've been working on a fork...)

But I was also there *before* Matrix became a Thing, and back then the federated messaging space was already in a very bad state, arguably worse than it is now - despite Matrix's issues, it *has* drawn in a whole new crop of folks interested in building out federated messaging systems.

I think a lot of it is going to come down to whether those folks have a more productive place to go, or whether everyone is going to be stuck in the swamp of Matrix bureaucracy under the current leadership forever. There are plenty of people who could make it better, but who just haven't been given the space to do so.