"We don't need XMPP or Matrix, IRC works fine now" is an especially frustrating claim because that new development of IRC features seems to be a direct consequence of XMPP and especially Matrix threatening to eat IRC's lunch (ie. would not have happened without them), and for the longest time IRC proponents would refuse to accept any sort of complaints about IRC having become unusably outdated
@joepie91
IRC added features?!
Like, I *was* one of the people trying to get IRC into a more modern shape, and I eventually gave up due to the constant hostile responses, I'm not just saying things here