what i've learned from moderating efdn these years has been that if someone doesn't respond positively to the first time you ask them to knock it off and stop being a shithead, you should just immediately suspend them because you're not going to get through to them

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@norikawa Can confirm. With people who behave like that, the only thing that *sometimes* works is actually that immediate ban/suspension - it at least communicates that your moderation notes weren't optional...

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