ok, so i just tried using matrix by way of element again, and it was if anything more generally broken than last time.

is there a matrix client that _works_?

@brennen Any particular issue you ran into? I've seen most of the weird Element bugs go away over the past couple of years...

(FluffyChat is an option for mobile, it's pretty straightforward - and I've heard good things about Cinny though I don't know how feature-complete it is yet)

@joepie91 load times for the app as a whole seem to be measurable in minutes, some rooms sort of randomly disappeared, clicking to join one i'm told exist doesn't do anything, searching for a known-extant channel doesn't work, app state overall seems pretty flaky, telling it to forget rooms seems not to work, etc.

@brennen Ah, right. Load times *should* be pretty fast nowadays unless you're in a lot of rooms (that's still being worked on, requires protocol changes), and I've not seen the 'forget rooms' bug for a long time.

The joining bugs are definitely still there though, especially the ones where it says a "join failed" and then magically succeeds at joining in the background a couple of minutes later... I *believe* there's also work ongoing on that, but I don't know the current status of that.

On the room searching, where did you search for it? By default, the room directory is a per-homeserver thing, not a single global list of everything.

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> By default, the room directory is a per-homeserver thing, not a single global list of everything.

ah, yeah, that'll likely be what i ran into.

@brennen One workaround is to search on matrix.org only - which has a pretty extensive room directory. At the top right should be a dropdown where you can specify a different homeserver to search on!

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